Mustang vs. Tire Wall @ Hallett Circuit

*06GT* · 10/26/09, 11:09 PM

Edit: Pics might not show up because my uploader bandwidth got nuked. Full set and story also here: http://racersweb.com/forums/ford/153...-only-one.html

Before
Hallett/CarFX Project car:

During
Oh **** Oh **** Oh Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit:

Note the bolt-in roll hoop punched through the floor...

After
Driver and passenger both unharmed (somehow):

THUS ENDETH THE LESSON

Apparently this wreck happened at Hallet Circuit, in Jennings Oklahoma.
I've talked to a few drivers that are familiar with that track, and they believe that this happened as a result of the uphill Left-hander just before going into turn 8. Too fast or braked over the crest of the hill, rearend got loose, carried left off of the track into the tire wall.

Apparently, this is a pretty common wreck at that track (minus the rollover carnage).

Track map:

*theedge67* · 10/26/09, 11:37 PM

I would recommend some Meguiars Scratch X for that. A little elbow grease should take that right out.

*2k7gtcs* · 10/26/09, 11:39 PM

I think I'd get a refund on that roll cage.

And of course that will buff right out.

StangMahn · 10/27/09, 12:35 AM

stupid crappy roll bars!

mustangmaniak2010 · 10/27/09, 6:12 AM

that roof looks pretty weak

Glenn · 10/27/09, 7:22 AM

Dam and times 2 on what David said. I bet they use a better roll bar system next time

*Flagstang* · 10/27/09, 8:53 AM

such a nice blue. a very nice blue.

*codeman94* · 10/27/09, 9:10 AM

video of this at all? That looks rough...

houtex · 10/27/09, 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StangMahn

stupid crappy roll bars!

How about the weak ass floor that the roll bar is attached to, and punched through?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangmaniak2010

that roof looks pretty weak

Of course, to be fair, a total pancake like that is not what is usually looked at when designing a car. In real life (tm) (not a track) this is not nearly as likely to happen, so yeah, it's not as strong when it *does* happen.

In any case, I somehow think the corrosion protection warranty is not gonna cover this.

slidemaster · 10/27/09, 1:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn

Dam and times 2 on what David said. I bet they use a better roll bar system next time

Im thinking that is was only a single hoop, that happened to get the wrong angle hit. Wow thats very scary

Vermillion06 · 10/27/09, 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangmaniak2010

that roof looks pretty weak

That's why rollcages were invented. Also, Every rollcage I've seen in a race car has the floorpan reinforced where the rollcage attaches to it. Guess this one was just for looks?

YALLER · 10/27/09, 3:01 PM

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea..._fx/index.html

Antigini-GT/CS · 10/27/09, 5:27 PM

What the heck. I had to read about this on a local forum so I could come back here and see it again.

That is an epic crash though.

StangMahn · 10/27/09, 10:32 PM

I'm thinking the roll cage was mostly due to the direct angle at which it would have hit the ground. Usually when one gets used, it's actually rolling, one side at the time, here, you have a near direct force onto the bar, so it's going to instantly push on both floor connections, and in this case through

Red Jay · 11/1/09, 4:23 PM

im in the same area as the guys who own this mustang! i used to see every saturday along with a few GT500s, 10' camaros and challengers. i didnt see it yesterday however.

heres his shop...if u look closely in the background u can see it.

*06GT* · 11/1/09, 5:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StangMahn

I'm thinking the roll cage was mostly due to the direct angle at which it would have hit the ground. Usually when one gets used, it's actually rolling, one side at the time, here, you have a near direct force onto the bar, so it's going to instantly push on both floor connections, and in this case through

It may have held up in an actual lateral roll scenario, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to test it out. The bar should be reinforced with gusset plates to the B/C pillar area of the vehicle where there is vertical structure to help absorb the impact.

*06GT* · 11/1/09, 5:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Jay

im in the same area as the guys who own this mustang! i used to see every saturday along with a few GT500s, 10' camaros and challengers. i didnt see it yesterday however.

heres his shop...if u look closely in the background u can see it.

This incident aside, I like their style.

hi5.0 · 11/1/09, 8:02 PM

Talk about lucky! After seeing those pics - may the parties responsible for that "rollcage" do it right for subsequent installs and use one with bars that extend to the base of the windshield/footwell area. Looked like a bolt on install to me. Scary.

10/26/09, 11:09 PM	#1
06GT Master Rasterbator Join Date: June 29, 2005 Posts: 1,316	Mustang vs. Tire Wall @ Hallett Circuit Edit: Pics might not show up because my uploader bandwidth got nuked. Full set and story also here: http://racersweb.com/forums/ford/153...-only-one.html Before *Hallett/CarFX Project car:* During *Oh Oh Oh Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit:* *Note the bolt-in roll hoop punched through the floor...* After *Driver and passenger both unharmed (somehow):* THUS ENDETH THE LESSON Apparently this wreck happened at Hallet Circuit, in Jennings Oklahoma. I've talked to a few drivers that are familiar with that track, and they believe that this happened as a result of the uphill Left-hander just before going into turn 8. Too fast or braked over the crest of the hill, rearend got loose, carried left off of the track into the tire wall. Apparently, this is a pretty common wreck at that track (minus the rollover carnage). Track map: __________________ *2006 Mustang GT: 300* *RWHP / 313 RWTQ SAE* Racer'sWeb.com Pro Autosports NASA Arizona Region Last edited by 06GT; 10/27/09 at 8:08 PM.

10/26/09, 11:37 PM	#2
theedge67 Team Mustang Source Steve Join Date: July 4, 2006 Location: St. Louis Area Car: '06 Mustang GT Posts: 2,868	I would recommend some Meguiars Scratch X for that. A little elbow grease should take that right out. __________________ JLT II Cold Air Intake, Amsoil Synthetic Air Filter, Tillman Speed Tunes, Bassani SS Axle Backs, Bassani X-Pipe w/cats, Ford Intake Plenum Cover, Blue "MUSTANG" door sill inserts, MGW Eject Button, J&M Lower Control Arms, Mileage Warranty Delete "If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem"

10/27/09, 6:12 AM	#5
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10/27/09, 7:22 AM	#6
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10/26/09, 11:39 PM	#3
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10/27/09, 9:10 AM	#8
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10/27/09, 5:27 PM	#13
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11/1/09, 4:23 PM	#15
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11/1/09, 8:02 PM	#18
hi5.0 Shelby GT350 Member Join Date: August 15, 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,165	Talk about lucky! After seeing those pics - may the parties responsible for that "rollcage" do it right for subsequent installs and use one with bars that extend to the base of the windshield/footwell area. Looked like a bolt on install to me. Scary.

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