Adding the OEM nav
#22
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I don't see why not, as the nav was not changed.
It 'should' work. You may want to double check the part number, however, to see if a nav from a 2013 is the same as one from a 2010-2012.
It 'should' work. You may want to double check the part number, however, to see if a nav from a 2013 is the same as one from a 2010-2012.
#23
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OK. Bt the way, the OEM amp is a pain in the ***. Custom wiring and the adding of pins into connectors will be needed. Aftermarket amp may be more attractive of an option.
out of curiosity, will the wiring harness (that has heated seats) work with a bezel that doesn't have heated seats?
I just helped do this into my friend's jeep. it was awful... any suggestions for an amp that costs about the same?
I just helped do this into my friend's jeep. it was awful... any suggestions for an amp that costs about the same?
As for an amp, laserred98 suggested the MS-8.
Last edited by jim010; 1/7/13 at 04:50 PM.
#25
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Jim, do you by chance have a picture of all the parts you used? I PMd a guy that has some of the parts but he said he wants a picture so that he can "recognize" the parts.
The climate system harness is number 15.
Harness numbr 7 and 6 'should' be attached to the main dash harness you would pull from the wreckers. If not, you'll have to get these.
You'll want the amp and bracket it goes on for this. Get the pigtails too.
#27
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You know when I had my 2009 Ford FX2 I did the same thing and replaced the stock radio for the Nav, just plug and play in 15 minutes but after reading all this ill pass on this mod.
#28
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I didn't find it to be all that bad, really. You'll save some cash and learn something about your car.
#30
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Good question. No, that cable is not included, as I took it and used it in my car. When I bought the main dash harness from the dealer, it did not include those 2 cables.
But if you are getting this stuff from a wrecker, he should include the whole harness for you - and the cables are strapped with the main harness. They sold all of that stuff for me as a package.
If you have to buy it separately, it is $30 new.
But if you are getting this stuff from a wrecker, he should include the whole harness for you - and the cables are strapped with the main harness. They sold all of that stuff for me as a package.
If you have to buy it separately, it is $30 new.
#34
1 more question.. Where did you get the 22 guage stp 4 pair wire, the double size female pin, and the single size female pins? If you could post links so I know what I am looking for it would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to buy them before I receive all of the components, but i am getting confused about which to buy. Thanks!
#35
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I had to order the wire. All I could get was 24 guage, though. I ordered it through an electronics store. Ask for shielded twisted pair STP. 4 pair twisted with a drain wire and wrapped in a metal foil. It was for ethernet cable, and I cut off the ends.
As for the pins, I used the pins from a bunch of pigtails I had lying around from other harnesses and pulled those out. I also pulled some out from the old climate system harness.
I'll take pics when I get home for you.
As for the pins, I used the pins from a bunch of pigtails I had lying around from other harnesses and pulled those out. I also pulled some out from the old climate system harness.
I'll take pics when I get home for you.
#37
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You can use regular speaker wire if you wish. I just wanted to wire mine up as close to factory as possible. They used STP, so that is what I did.
The twisting is to cancel out the electromagnetic field from each pair. You'll notice in the diagram Hawkeye posted that the paired wires to each speaker is also twisted. The shielding to to prevent the elevtromagnetic signal from the wires from interfering with other electrical signals in other wires in the harness, and to prevent other electrical fields from interfering with the speaker wires going to the amp.
At least that is how it was explained to me.
The twisting is to cancel out the electromagnetic field from each pair. You'll notice in the diagram Hawkeye posted that the paired wires to each speaker is also twisted. The shielding to to prevent the elevtromagnetic signal from the wires from interfering with other electrical signals in other wires in the harness, and to prevent other electrical fields from interfering with the speaker wires going to the amp.
At least that is how it was explained to me.
#38
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Here are the shots of the pins. The one on the left is the male pins. One pin is the regular 'single' width, while the other 'double' width. The female connector is a double width also. I yanked these from the old climate harness and other pigtails I had. I'm sure youcan buy these in an electronics store.
All you need to do ispush them into the appropriate slot.
Since you are going OEM with the amp, and not aftermarket, just be aware that it is a PITA.
All you need to do ispush them into the appropriate slot.
Since you are going OEM with the amp, and not aftermarket, just be aware that it is a PITA.
#40
Good question. No, that cable is not included, as I took it and used it in my car. When I bought the main dash harness from the dealer, it did not include those 2 cables.
But if you are getting this stuff from a wrecker, he should include the whole harness for you - and the cables are strapped with the main harness. They sold all of that stuff for me as a package.
If you have to buy it separately, it is $30 new.
But if you are getting this stuff from a wrecker, he should include the whole harness for you - and the cables are strapped with the main harness. They sold all of that stuff for me as a package.
If you have to buy it separately, it is $30 new.