Adding the OEM nav
1/30/14, 02:33 PM
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Here is a comparison between the single and dual.
Orange is where the blend doors are located in the climate box.
Green and blue are the parts that are different. The harness and the climate box.
Red are the parts that are to be added. Another adjusting motor and temp sensor.
Orange is where the blend doors are located in the climate box.
Green and blue are the parts that are different. The harness and the climate box.
Red are the parts that are to be added. Another adjusting motor and temp sensor.
@jim010
Hello from Germany,
My 2014 GT arrived by my Dealer and now we want install a Oem Nav from a 2013 GT.
Do you have news about the amps by the 2014 or the sound work direct? I have the Shaker 500.
And the second Question about the Dual climate. Can we install the second adust. Motor, blend door, harness and temp sensor in the single climate box or we must install the dual climate box?
Thanks for your help.
PS: Sorry for my english....
1/30/14, 04:46 PM
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Qustions about the climate box will have to wait. The member that did this will post a write up on the week end.
As for the amp for a 2014, I will get back to you on this.
As for the amp for a 2014, I will get back to you on this.
1/31/14, 03:11 PM
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Yes i have a GT Premium with Shaker 500, you mean i dont need the amp and the extra wiring to the speakers? You mean only the Base Model needs the amps?
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1/31/14, 03:35 PM
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If I understand my diagrams correctly, then you have the amp already.
Of course, if you plug it all in and you have no sound, then you do need the amp. If that happens, don't worry, as you don't need to take everything apart again. The OEM amp is supposed to be in the trunk - for a 2011/12 at least.
Of course, if you plug it all in and you have no sound, then you do need the amp. If that happens, don't worry, as you don't need to take everything apart again. The OEM amp is supposed to be in the trunk - for a 2011/12 at least.
1/31/14, 03:47 PM
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If I understand my diagrams correctly, then you have the amp already.
Of course, if you plug it all in and you have no sound, then you do need the amp. If that happens, don't worry, as you don't need to take everything apart again. The OEM amp is supposed to be in the trunk - for a 2011/12 at least.
Of course, if you plug it all in and you have no sound, then you do need the amp. If that happens, don't worry, as you don't need to take everything apart again. The OEM amp is supposed to be in the trunk - for a 2011/12 at least.
1/31/14, 07:36 PM
#208
Hi
Jim and I have been PMing regarding the nav and dual zone upgrade that my son and I have done in his 2012 Premium Race Red.
We were able to purchase a nav system from a 2011 Shelby GT 500.
We followed Jims directions regarding the necessary components to install for a nav system.
I decided to also install the necessary components to get the dual zone system working as well.
My concern was that, I did not want to drain the coolant, as well as the AC freon and felt that even though Ford only sells the HVAC evaporator box as a complete unit (either single or dual zone) that there must be a way to convert a single zone car to a dual zone without too much difficulty. I was right.
The main difference is the air distribution plenum on the HVAC evaporator box, as well as one control door motor and the wiring harness.
The necessary components to do this conversion is as follows:
The included photo shows the difference from the single (still installed) and the double (on the transmission hump)
The only difference is that there is an extra temperature blend door actuator motor located on the drivers side of the plenum. When you purchase the evaporator housing using an 8MM socket set remove the self tapping screws holding the blend door housing onto the main evaporator housing. Using some of the removed screws install the new temperature blend door actuator motor onto the end of the drivers side blend door (see photo) .
Next remove the single zone evaporator housing (9 screws)( one is underneath) and remove the two existing blend door actuator motors being careful to install them in the same position on the dual zone plenum ( as they were on the single zone plenum) as they are different motors with different wiring connectors.
Install the dual zone plenum ( 9 screws) ( and two additional for the side housing) install the new wiring harness and when you replace the dash with the nav unit you now have dual zone HVAC controlled by the nav unit.
In the photo the single zone plenum is still installed. You can see on the drivers side of the dual zone the additional temperature blend door motor that we have installed. The whole conversion took us about 1 hour.
I also purchased a Rear spoiler with camera.
Since the existing 14A005 main wiring harness did not have the wiring for the OEM amp (located in the trunk) or the necessary wiring harness for the spoiler mounted backup camera, I decided to replace the main wiring harness.
We installed a Lockpic with cameras installed in the license plate lower bolt hole and one on the passenger side mirror.
All in all the whole system works very well.
The only reason that I started on this is that my 21 year old son is very directionally challenged and having the nav unit has allowed him to get around without the distraction of looking at his phone.
If you have any questions I would be pleased to answer to the best of my ability
Jim and I have been PMing regarding the nav and dual zone upgrade that my son and I have done in his 2012 Premium Race Red.
We were able to purchase a nav system from a 2011 Shelby GT 500.
We followed Jims directions regarding the necessary components to install for a nav system.
I decided to also install the necessary components to get the dual zone system working as well.
My concern was that, I did not want to drain the coolant, as well as the AC freon and felt that even though Ford only sells the HVAC evaporator box as a complete unit (either single or dual zone) that there must be a way to convert a single zone car to a dual zone without too much difficulty. I was right.
The main difference is the air distribution plenum on the HVAC evaporator box, as well as one control door motor and the wiring harness.
The necessary components to do this conversion is as follows:
- DR3Z-19850-B evaporator housing $254.79
- AR3Z-18B574-B dual zone wiring harness $27.55
- AR3Z-19E616-A Temperature blend door actuator motor $20.30
The included photo shows the difference from the single (still installed) and the double (on the transmission hump)
The only difference is that there is an extra temperature blend door actuator motor located on the drivers side of the plenum. When you purchase the evaporator housing using an 8MM socket set remove the self tapping screws holding the blend door housing onto the main evaporator housing. Using some of the removed screws install the new temperature blend door actuator motor onto the end of the drivers side blend door (see photo) .
Next remove the single zone evaporator housing (9 screws)( one is underneath) and remove the two existing blend door actuator motors being careful to install them in the same position on the dual zone plenum ( as they were on the single zone plenum) as they are different motors with different wiring connectors.
Install the dual zone plenum ( 9 screws) ( and two additional for the side housing) install the new wiring harness and when you replace the dash with the nav unit you now have dual zone HVAC controlled by the nav unit.
In the photo the single zone plenum is still installed. You can see on the drivers side of the dual zone the additional temperature blend door motor that we have installed. The whole conversion took us about 1 hour.
I also purchased a Rear spoiler with camera.
- AR3Z-6344210-BA $284.31
Since the existing 14A005 main wiring harness did not have the wiring for the OEM amp (located in the trunk) or the necessary wiring harness for the spoiler mounted backup camera, I decided to replace the main wiring harness.
- CR3Z-14A005-KB $320.61
We installed a Lockpic with cameras installed in the license plate lower bolt hole and one on the passenger side mirror.
All in all the whole system works very well.
The only reason that I started on this is that my 21 year old son is very directionally challenged and having the nav unit has allowed him to get around without the distraction of looking at his phone.
If you have any questions I would be pleased to answer to the best of my ability
1/31/14, 07:46 PM
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That's awesome, great!
I will be doing this in the spring and get it fully functional.
Last mod I do after this will be the pony puddles and heated mirrors.
I will be doing this in the spring and get it fully functional.
Last mod I do after this will be the pony puddles and heated mirrors.
2/1/14, 03:25 AM
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Hi
Jim and I have been PMing regarding the nav and dual zone upgrade that my son and I have done in his 2012 Premium Race Red.
We were able to purchase a nav system from a 2011 Shelby GT 500.
We followed Jims directions regarding the necessary components to install for a nav system.
I decided to also install the necessary components to get the dual zone system working as well.
My concern was that, I did not want to drain the coolant, as well as the AC freon and felt that even though Ford only sells the HVAC evaporator box as a complete unit (either single or dual zone) that there must be a way to convert a single zone car to a dual zone without too much difficulty. I was right.
The main difference is the air distribution plenum on the HVAC evaporator box, as well as one control door motor and the wiring harness.
The necessary components to do this conversion is as follows:
The included photo shows the difference from the single (still installed) and the double (on the transmission hump)
The only difference is that there is an extra temperature blend door actuator motor located on the drivers side of the plenum. When you purchase the evaporator housing using an 8MM socket set remove the self tapping screws holding the blend door housing onto the main evaporator housing. Using some of the removed screws install the new temperature blend door actuator motor onto the end of the drivers side blend door (see photo) .
Next remove the single zone evaporator housing (9 screws)( one is underneath) and remove the two existing blend door actuator motors being careful to install them in the same position on the dual zone plenum ( as they were on the single zone plenum) as they are different motors with different wiring connectors.
Install the dual zone plenum ( 9 screws) ( and two additional for the side housing) install the new wiring harness and when you replace the dash with the nav unit you now have dual zone HVAC controlled by the nav unit.
In the photo the single zone plenum is still installed. You can see on the drivers side of the dual zone the additional temperature blend door motor that we have installed. The whole conversion took us about 1 hour.
I also purchased a Rear spoiler with camera.
Since the existing 14A005 main wiring harness did not have the wiring for the OEM amp (located in the trunk) or the necessary wiring harness for the spoiler mounted backup camera, I decided to replace the main wiring harness.
We installed a Lockpic with cameras installed in the license plate lower bolt hole and one on the passenger side mirror.
All in all the whole system works very well.
The only reason that I started on this is that my 21 year old son is very directionally challenged and having the nav unit has allowed him to get around without the distraction of looking at his phone.
If you have any questions I would be pleased to answer to the best of my ability
Jim and I have been PMing regarding the nav and dual zone upgrade that my son and I have done in his 2012 Premium Race Red.
We were able to purchase a nav system from a 2011 Shelby GT 500.
We followed Jims directions regarding the necessary components to install for a nav system.
I decided to also install the necessary components to get the dual zone system working as well.
My concern was that, I did not want to drain the coolant, as well as the AC freon and felt that even though Ford only sells the HVAC evaporator box as a complete unit (either single or dual zone) that there must be a way to convert a single zone car to a dual zone without too much difficulty. I was right.
The main difference is the air distribution plenum on the HVAC evaporator box, as well as one control door motor and the wiring harness.
The necessary components to do this conversion is as follows:
- DR3Z-19850-B evaporator housing $254.79
- AR3Z-18B574-B dual zone wiring harness $27.55
- AR3Z-19E616-A Temperature blend door actuator motor $20.30
The included photo shows the difference from the single (still installed) and the double (on the transmission hump)
The only difference is that there is an extra temperature blend door actuator motor located on the drivers side of the plenum. When you purchase the evaporator housing using an 8MM socket set remove the self tapping screws holding the blend door housing onto the main evaporator housing. Using some of the removed screws install the new temperature blend door actuator motor onto the end of the drivers side blend door (see photo) .
Next remove the single zone evaporator housing (9 screws)( one is underneath) and remove the two existing blend door actuator motors being careful to install them in the same position on the dual zone plenum ( as they were on the single zone plenum) as they are different motors with different wiring connectors.
Install the dual zone plenum ( 9 screws) ( and two additional for the side housing) install the new wiring harness and when you replace the dash with the nav unit you now have dual zone HVAC controlled by the nav unit.
In the photo the single zone plenum is still installed. You can see on the drivers side of the dual zone the additional temperature blend door motor that we have installed. The whole conversion took us about 1 hour.
I also purchased a Rear spoiler with camera.
- AR3Z-6344210-BA $284.31
Since the existing 14A005 main wiring harness did not have the wiring for the OEM amp (located in the trunk) or the necessary wiring harness for the spoiler mounted backup camera, I decided to replace the main wiring harness.
- CR3Z-14A005-KB $320.61
We installed a Lockpic with cameras installed in the license plate lower bolt hole and one on the passenger side mirror.
All in all the whole system works very well.
The only reason that I started on this is that my 21 year old son is very directionally challenged and having the nav unit has allowed him to get around without the distraction of looking at his phone.
If you have any questions I would be pleased to answer to the best of my ability
thanks for your help. I let you know when we are finish with that.
@Muskoka
Jim wrote the dual zone has a tempature sensor, but i dont find it in your installation manual? The Sensor has the AR3Z-19c734? Do you installed this or?
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2/1/14, 10:19 AM
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The single zone sensor has the BR3Z-19C734-D
And the Dual Zone has the AR3Z-19C734-A only for the Dual Zone but were i have toinstall this?. I find also the sensor name "in-car sensor at plenum chamber".
Andre
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2/3/14, 05:55 PM
#213
Hi
Regarding the AR3Z-19C734-A. That is an ambient temperature sensor that is installed in the back of the bezel containing the nav switches as well as the temperature controls.
If you are purchasing a nav screen and ACM from another car with the HVAC control module and the switch bezel, then the temperature sensor will already be installed in the back of the bezel with two self tapping screws. The picture showing the temperature sensor is a challenge since it does not show where the sensor is mounted.
If you have the Ford mustang service workshop manual then the installation location is on drawing on page 412-01-2 listed as the "In-vehicle Temperature Sensor".
If you need that drawing let me know.
Regards
Rob
Regarding the AR3Z-19C734-A. That is an ambient temperature sensor that is installed in the back of the bezel containing the nav switches as well as the temperature controls.
If you are purchasing a nav screen and ACM from another car with the HVAC control module and the switch bezel, then the temperature sensor will already be installed in the back of the bezel with two self tapping screws. The picture showing the temperature sensor is a challenge since it does not show where the sensor is mounted.
If you have the Ford mustang service workshop manual then the installation location is on drawing on page 412-01-2 listed as the "In-vehicle Temperature Sensor".
If you need that drawing let me know.
Regards
Rob
2/10/14, 06:46 PM
#217
Hi Defiance
The difference is:
R3Z-19850-A is the single zone HVAC evaporator housing with positions for one AR3Z-19E616-A temperature blend door actuator and one AR3Z-19E616-D temperature blend door actuator. Both of these door actuator motors are already in your single zone unit.
R3Z-19850-B is a dual zone HVAC evaporator housing with positions for
- 2 AR3Z-19E616-A temperature door actuators and one AR3Z-19E616-D temperature blend door actuator motor.
When replacing the existing single zone HVAC housing, you need to save the two blend door actuators and reinstall them into the B model in the same locations since the motors are different with different wiring connectors. Then you need to install the additional AR3Z-19E616-A actuator motor onto the drivers side blend door. If you look at the photo you will see that the unit that is already installed (DR3Z-19850-A) does not have the blend door actuator. You can see a beige tube with no actuator. The second plenum has been removed from a DR3Z-19850-B and has the AR3Z-19E616-A already installed.
I hope that that clears every thing up. If not let me know.
Regards
Rob
The difference is:
R3Z-19850-A is the single zone HVAC evaporator housing with positions for one AR3Z-19E616-A temperature blend door actuator and one AR3Z-19E616-D temperature blend door actuator. Both of these door actuator motors are already in your single zone unit.R3Z-19850-B is a dual zone HVAC evaporator housing with positions for - 2 AR3Z-19E616-A temperature door actuators and one AR3Z-19E616-D temperature blend door actuator motor.
When replacing the existing single zone HVAC housing, you need to save the two blend door actuators and reinstall them into the B model in the same locations since the motors are different with different wiring connectors. Then you need to install the additional AR3Z-19E616-A actuator motor onto the drivers side blend door. If you look at the photo you will see that the unit that is already installed (DR3Z-19850-A) does not have the blend door actuator. You can see a beige tube with no actuator. The second plenum has been removed from a DR3Z-19850-B and has the AR3Z-19E616-A already installed.
I hope that that clears every thing up. If not let me know.
Regards
Rob
2/10/14, 08:44 PM
#218
Muskoka,
Changing the one harness mentioned is all that's required to make the OEM amp work with the rest of the system? I'm curious because I'd like to avoid rewiring the stereo if at all possible and go as OEM a solution as possible.
Changing the one harness mentioned is all that's required to make the OEM amp work with the rest of the system? I'm curious because I'd like to avoid rewiring the stereo if at all possible and go as OEM a solution as possible.
2/10/14, 09:34 PM
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Be warned that if you decide to go with the OEM body harness, it is expensive, and you need to pretty much gut the interior and trunk to swap it out.
Or am I wrong Muskoka?
Or am I wrong Muskoka?
2/11/14, 11:21 AM
#220
Hey Muskosa thanks for the info that cleared up a lot of questions I have everything for the navigation system except the main wiring harness and dual zone components which I will buy. Question and this goes for Muskosa and Jim. How hard is it to take out the whole entire dash. I mean looking at the picture the steering wheel is also gone and airbags. So it looks very scary to do lol. So before ordering the missing pieces I will be taking apart the dash because at the moment the car is stored for the winter. Please advise me on any advice you guys got. Thank you both for figuring this all out because I almost bought the raxiom navigation system and it just didn't look oem to me 
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