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Old 4/20/10, 06:26 PM
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Question 5.0 in a 5.0?

when will we see the first 5.0 in a fox box? I would love to see a kit for the early 90's mustangs.

anyone thought about this?
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
when will we see the first 5.0 in a fox box? I would love to see a kit for the early 90's mustangs.

anyone thought about this?
I'm scheptical as to whether or not it will fit between the shock towers of a fox chassis. Unless of course you heavily modify it.
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Well, owing to the fact that the motor and ECM/harness to run it would cost three times or more than the car is worth, I don't see any "Kits" being made for it.

There have been many individuals that have dropped lots of different mod motors in a fox body so someone may do it some day, someone with more money than sense probably...
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Well, owing to the fact that the motor and ECM/harness to run it would cost three times or more than the car is worth, I don't see any "Kits" being made for it.

There have been many individuals that have dropped lots of different mod motors in a fox body so someone may do it some day, someone with more money than sense probably...
Rumor is that there will be a kit available offering the 5.0L & a standalone ECM from FRPP just like they do now for the 350hp Hot Rod 4.6L.

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Originally Posted by 07S197
Rumor is that there will be a kit available offering the 5.0L & a standalone ECM from FRPP just like they do now for the 350hp Hot Rod 4.6L.
That may be but it will still cost 3-4 times or more than what a nice engineless fox body would be worth.

A POS fox Mustang roller will bring $500-$600, a real nice roller that doesn't need anything except a motor and tranny will bring $2000. I would bet a 5.0 Coyote crate motor will be $8K by itself, probably $1500 for the ECM/harness kit, then you add a tranny setup to that and you would be in the $12K range.

Lot of money to sink into one just for bragging rights. Lots easier and cheaper to build a killer 5.0 windsor motor.
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Here's a link to what Stang.net is doing.


http://www.stangnet.com/2010/02/27/s...ruise-project/
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
That may be but it will still cost 3-4 times or more than what a nice engineless fox body would be worth.

A POS fox Mustang roller will bring $500-$600, a real nice roller that doesn't need anything except a motor and tranny will bring $2000. I would bet a 5.0 Coyote crate motor will be $8K by itself, probably $1500 for the ECM/harness kit, then you add a tranny setup to that and you would be in the $12K range.

Lot of money to sink into one just for bragging rights. Lots easier and cheaper to build a killer 5.0 windsor motor.
True but it's not about dollars and sense for people who take on builds like this. It is about the challenge and accomplishment of building something you want the way you want it. If that happens to be a 400hp+ modern day 5.0L mod motor in a classic Fox body then so be it.

There are quite a few 2V, 3V & 4V 4.6L motors running around in fox bodies, I'm sure those are 10k-15k builds, no one calls them silly. One could ask the question as to why would you S/C'd a 3.8L when for the cost you could have bought a 4.6 GT? But I'm sure for you it was the challenge and excitement in having something different.

In the end...To each their own.

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Here you go. http://www.stangnet.com/2010/02/27/s...ruise-project/

Edit: didn't see above post

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Originally Posted by super6stang
Here's a link to what Stang.net is doing.


http://www.stangnet.com/2010/02/27/s...ruise-project/
I like it....A LOT.
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Originally Posted by montreal ponies
I'm scheptical as to whether or not it will fit between the shock towers of a fox chassis. Unless of course you heavily modify it.
prior to the SN95's there was a couple of 93 Fox's used as a test bed for the 4.6
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I seen a few fox's with 03-04 cobra motors in them. I am sure the 5.0 isnt that much larger.
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I would love to drop the 2011 5.0 in my 85/Gt, however i'm strongly considering that FR 306 crate motor with 340hp to make my Fox a daily driver.
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Originally Posted by montreal ponies
I'm scheptical as to whether or not it will fit between the shock towers of a fox chassis. Unless of course you heavily modify it.
GT500 engine fits. 5.0 will fit.
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if you can fit a cobra motor in a focus you can fit it in fox.

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isn't the 5.0 supposed to be dimensionally smaller than the 4.6L mod motor? you can even squeeze a 4.6into a II, i have no doubt that a 5.0 --> fox swap will be relatively simple.

and its not just about the power. its about keeping an old car at the top of the line. putting a brand new high tech motor into a classic (i see foxes as classic enough, even if they are still mostly at the bottom of the depreciation barrel)? its one of the coolest thigns around. people have already done it swapping efi foxes and 4.6s into older cars, why not into what we were once taking motors out of for our even older cars?
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
That may be but it will still cost 3-4 times or more than what a nice engineless fox body would be worth.

A POS fox Mustang roller will bring $500-$600, a real nice roller that doesn't need anything except a motor and tranny will bring $2000. I would bet a 5.0 Coyote crate motor will be $8K by itself, probably $1500 for the ECM/harness kit, then you add a tranny setup to that and you would be in the $12K range.

Lot of money to sink into one just for bragging rights. Lots easier and cheaper to build a killer 5.0 windsor motor.
Everything you say is true, but it doesn't mean there isn't someone who would want to do it. I do feel there will be a market. I remember seeing 4V 1999-2001 SVT Motors in some Fox bodied cars.

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I'm sure it will be done just to say we were the first to fit a coyote 5.0 in a fox. There are kits to drop a 351 in and that would be much cheaper and have more displacement.
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Originally Posted by 07S197
One could ask the question as to why would you S/C'd a 3.8L when for the cost you could have bought a 4.6 GT?
I have less than $1500 in my complete supercharger setup, that and the cost of the car is still less than what a similar quality same year GT would have cost.

I'm sure someone will do this swap soon after the motors become available but I wouldn't be the one to even consider it.
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
I have less than $1500 in my complete supercharger setup, that and the cost of the car is still less than what a similar quality same year GT would have cost.

I'm sure someone will do this swap soon after the motors become available but I wouldn't be the one to even consider it.
That's surprising. Whenever I actually find published supercharger prices, it's usually $2500+ without all the needed plumbing.
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Originally Posted by Skotty
That's surprising. Whenever I actually find published supercharger prices, it's usually $2500+ without all the needed plumbing.
It is not a kit, I built it. Got a hell of a deal on the supercharger, it was a new take off from a large magnuson order that got cancelled. Then I built my own manifold to adapt the blower to the stock lower and built my own idler assembly. The throttle body and front part of the inlet are from a '03 Cobra and a buddy helped me build the sheet metal inlet to adapt the cobra parts to the blower.

You can see some of the details in my videos in my signature.

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