Spare Tire Option for 2011 V6 ??
10/13/11, 01:34 PM
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I came looking for a thread here after I posted about this at AFM because someone there asked if there is an issue with the factory acorn lug nuts not working with the spare due to either the mating surface angle OR the studs sticking out too far with the thinner spare wheel.
Just setting a factory nut on the spare the angle seems right but can't be 100% from that. But the factory nuts being closed ended sounds like it might be a problem. But its hard to believe that Ford would not include or mention the need for different nuts if true.
I can picture some Mustang owner who was previously left stranded when he looked under the cover and found no spare (I know, but remember lots of owners don't even check their oil). So he buys this spare kit and motors happily away and later has a minor flat only to discover the lug nuts don't work and now he doesn't even have the inflation kit. LoL
Just setting a factory nut on the spare the angle seems right but can't be 100% from that. But the factory nuts being closed ended sounds like it might be a problem. But its hard to believe that Ford would not include or mention the need for different nuts if true.
I can picture some Mustang owner who was previously left stranded when he looked under the cover and found no spare (I know, but remember lots of owners don't even check their oil). So he buys this spare kit and motors happily away and later has a minor flat only to discover the lug nuts don't work and now he doesn't even have the inflation kit. LoL
10/13/11, 09:32 PM
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holy cow.
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I came looking for a thread here after I posted about this at AFM because someone there asked if there is an issue with the factory acorn lug nuts not working with the spare due to either the mating surface angle OR the studs sticking out too far with the thinner spare wheel.
Just setting a factory nut on the spare the angle seems right but can't be 100% from that. But the factory nuts being closed ended sounds like it might be a problem. But its hard to believe that Ford would not include or mention the need for different nuts if true.
I can picture some Mustang owner who was previously left stranded when he looked under the cover and found no spare (I know, but remember lots of owners don't even check their oil). So he buys this spare kit and motors happily away and later has a minor flat only to discover the lug nuts don't work and now he doesn't even have the inflation kit. LoL
Just setting a factory nut on the spare the angle seems right but can't be 100% from that. But the factory nuts being closed ended sounds like it might be a problem. But its hard to believe that Ford would not include or mention the need for different nuts if true.
I can picture some Mustang owner who was previously left stranded when he looked under the cover and found no spare (I know, but remember lots of owners don't even check their oil). So he buys this spare kit and motors happily away and later has a minor flat only to discover the lug nuts don't work and now he doesn't even have the inflation kit. LoL
I would surmise since the early s197 cars all used the Same Lug Nuts and Most Had Temp Spares there would not be an issue. I believe the New cars equipped with spares do not come with different nuts so logically the kit would not either. I personally have not seen any Ford which came from the factory with different nuts for the spares.
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10/13/11, 09:38 PM
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I can't give you the dimensions because I threw the box away but as you can see the box is just big enough to wedge the 185/60 R17 tire/wheel in. You'll have to guess at the height. The shipping label say 48 lbs. I don't see dimensions on the label but maybe its coded. The tire and wheel weight 37 according to my bathroom scales. The jack weighs 3 lbs, 1 less than the inflation kit. So a net increase around 36 lbs.
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10/13/11, 09:43 PM
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I came looking for a thread here after I posted about this at AFM because someone there asked if there is an issue with the factory acorn lug nuts not working with the spare due to either the mating surface angle OR the studs sticking out too far with the thinner spare wheel.
Just setting a factory nut on the spare the angle seems right but can't be 100% from that. But the factory nuts being closed ended sounds like it might be a problem. But its hard to believe that Ford would not include or mention the need for different nuts if true.
I can picture some Mustang owner who was previously left stranded when he looked under the cover and found no spare (I know, but remember lots of owners don't even check their oil). So he buys this spare kit and motors happily away and later has a minor flat only to discover the lug nuts don't work and now he doesn't even have the inflation kit. LoL
Just setting a factory nut on the spare the angle seems right but can't be 100% from that. But the factory nuts being closed ended sounds like it might be a problem. But its hard to believe that Ford would not include or mention the need for different nuts if true.
I can picture some Mustang owner who was previously left stranded when he looked under the cover and found no spare (I know, but remember lots of owners don't even check their oil). So he buys this spare kit and motors happily away and later has a minor flat only to discover the lug nuts don't work and now he doesn't even have the inflation kit. LoL
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10/13/11, 10:01 PM
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ALA 65 Shelby
For Myself if I was hell bent for a Full Size Spare I would get a Take Off 07-09 Gt-500 Front Wheel & Tire, It would clear any BIG brakes and in my case I never use the back seat anyway. The Front tire would clear the front and the size difference if used on the rear would not be a major issue as long as you replaced it within a reasonable amount of time! I would have to secure it. You would not want that thing loose in an impact. Might be able to only disable one rear seat depending on positioning not sure but worth a try.
Just a Thought!
That is if you don't use your back Seat.
KC
For Myself if I was hell bent for a Full Size Spare I would get a Take Off 07-09 Gt-500 Front Wheel & Tire, It would clear any BIG brakes and in my case I never use the back seat anyway. The Front tire would clear the front and the size difference if used on the rear would not be a major issue as long as you replaced it within a reasonable amount of time! I would have to secure it. You would not want that thing loose in an impact. Might be able to only disable one rear seat depending on positioning not sure but worth a try.
Just a Thought!
That is if you don't use your back Seat.
KC
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10/14/11, 07:28 AM
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I can't give you the dimensions because I threw the box away but as you can see the box is just big enough to wedge the 185/60 R17 tire/wheel in. You'll have to guess at the height. The shipping label say 48 lbs. I don't see dimensions on the label but maybe its coded. The tire and wheel weight 37 according to my bathroom scales. The jack weighs 3 lbs, 1 less than the inflation kit. So a net increase around 36 lbs.
The Aluminum Spare Assy. only weighs 28.66 lbs. (UPS Scale) & Jack Kit is 5.30 lbs. so the weight adder on 05-10 GT's and Canadian 11-12 V6 (vs. Air Pump @ 5.46 lbs.) is only 28.5 lbs.
Can't complain a whole lot though ... at least ways they FINALLY are offering a kit for a reasonable price not too far off what it would be from the factory ($150 option on V6 Camaro and 2011 Fleet V6 Mustang).
Doug
10/18/11, 09:34 AM
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I could not find the kit in www.FordParts.com. The info we have is as follows:
For those customers interested in upgrading this equipment, the parts required to add a mini-spare are listed below and available from the Parts Department at your local Ford or Lincoln dealer. When using a 17" mini-spare tire on a vehicle equipped with 18 inch wheels, please read the information in the Owners Guide regarding precautions to take while using a dissimilar spare tire/wheels combination.
Part Name Part Number
Wheel 9R3Z-1007-A
Valve Stem F42Z-1700-A
Jack 4R3Z-17080-AA
Lug Wrench 4R3Z-17032-AA
Lug Wrench Cover AR3Z-17005-A
"J" Hook W710349-S437
Washer E9SZ-1424-A
"J" Hook Cap 1F1Z-1462-AA
Jack Retaining Bolt W711555-S437
Jacking Instructions (English) 5R3Z-17A083-AA
Mini-Spare Tire Maxxis T185/60/R17
There is a specific PDL CFB-0446 for the 2004 Marauder that lists:
18"x 8" unpolished forged aluminum wheel is to be used as spare (D17AP).
235/50R18W97 BF Goodrich G-Force tire is to be used as spare (D3MAL).
For the 2011 Mustang GT, I will need you to PM me your VIN.
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10/18/11, 12:00 PM
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You guys are awesome!!!Deysha
10/21/11, 05:16 PM
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Ford Customer Service, if you go back to page two of this thread you will see that NightSteel got the part number for the spare kit from someone at Ford. I wouldn't mind knowing who that person is just to say thank you.
10/24/11, 06:29 AM
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10/24/11, 04:30 PM
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Deysha, I don't have a way of contacting him either. I tried going though one of the administrators, but he told me they didn't have any info on NightSteel. Can't figure that one out. Good Luck
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Oh, sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this thread.. I er, don't know if she would appreciate me giving away her e-mail address, but the person who helped me was Teresa R. Wesley, Executive Liaison, FCSD - Contact Center Governance. I've already thanked her myself, but perhaps Deysha would be kind enough to pass on the word from you, magicman!
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Thank you, Keysha and NightSteel, I agree that Teresa wouldn't like having her email address posted all over this forum. I just don't understand that I had 3 different email discussions with Ford Customer Service and not only of those people could provide me with the part number for the kit. So I don't have any faith in Ford or my local dealers parts department.
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magicman, I'd say that depends on when you asked. Obviously, the spare tire kit is a recent thing, and anything that Ford was selling before would have been individual parts, even if they called it a kit. If you were asking around much before me, then there just wouldn't have been much in the way of information out there.
I'm just glad Ford *responded* to the demand, eventually, and started selling the comprehensive kit. I just didn't feel 'safe' without a real spare tire, weight savings be damned. I'd rather carry around the extra 35 lbs than worry about being stranded with a tire too shredded to goo, or having to goo a tire that could be patched, and having to replace the TPMS sensor too. I take short road trips a few times a year, and I'm planning on a month-long trip next year, and now I don't have to worry about being caught out and needing a tow.
I'm just glad Ford *responded* to the demand, eventually, and started selling the comprehensive kit. I just didn't feel 'safe' without a real spare tire, weight savings be damned. I'd rather carry around the extra 35 lbs than worry about being stranded with a tire too shredded to goo, or having to goo a tire that could be patched, and having to replace the TPMS sensor too. I take short road trips a few times a year, and I'm planning on a month-long trip next year, and now I don't have to worry about being caught out and needing a tow.
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magicman, I'd say that depends on when you asked. Obviously, the spare tire kit is a recent thing, and anything that Ford was selling before would have been individual parts, even if they called it a kit. If you were asking around much before me, then there just wouldn't have been much in the way of information out there.
Deysha