January 2012 Mustang Sales Figures
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January 2012 Mustang Sales Figures
Delivery (sales) Stats:
Mustang January 2012 Deliveries (actual sales): 3,736
Compared to Competition:
Camaro sold 5,709 units in January 2012.
Challenger sold 2,551 units in January 2012.
Mustang January 2012 Deliveries (actual sales): 3,736
Compared to Competition:
Camaro sold 5,709 units in January 2012.
Challenger sold 2,551 units in January 2012.
2/1/12, 11:00 AM
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You can see why Ford had to push the car to a more cartoonish design and away from the seeker classic design and add the modern goodies to compete with the Cartoonish over the top Camaro. This is what appeals to the younger crowd as we are living in the animated/video game era. We shall see over the next yr if the changes will pay off for Ford or if most are just tired of the Mustang. But it may be just the classic design as look at the Challenger sales. I bet the over the top cartoonish Charger is doing very well.
2/1/12, 11:05 AM
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Hard to believe the Challenger is so very far behind. It's a far more beautiful car, front to back, top to bottom, inside and out, than the new camaro. And it's not even close.
Stuff like this makes me think the movie Idiocracy is a lot closer than it should be.
Stuff like this makes me think the movie Idiocracy is a lot closer than it should be.
2/1/12, 11:22 AM
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Shows how simple minded america is. People are dumb enough to buy An overpriced, hideous, obese muscle car that gets its a$$ handed to it by a far superior, less expensive and better looking mustang. All for what? The camaro name? The chevy name? GM is a s**t company always has been. Ford didn't take the bailout people. You know why? Because they make a better product. Its kinda good for me though. Everyone and there mother has a camaro here in the capital region. Cant wait to roll out my "one of a kind" 2013 GT premium and show these mullets whats up.
2/1/12, 11:41 AM
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The Camaro interior is ugly and cheap looking. The dash and guages look like crap. The Challenger is by far better and would be my pick if I were buying something other than the 2013 Mustang GT. Actually, if the Challenger was lighter and Chrysler had not encrypted the PCM on the 12's it would be a hard choice between the Mustang and Challenger.
2/1/12, 12:54 PM
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I think what holds back the Challenger is that it is a true classic remake. All us classic car lovers love it but the average young buyer looking for a sporty car do not get it. Its more of a boulevard cruiser and this is why you see older gents owning them. Plus you do not see many women driving them as you do v6 Mustangs or Camaro's. Also the power to $ ratio is pretty poor with a car that size. R/T needs to have 425 to even be tempting with SRT8 be around 500+.
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Shows how simple minded america is. People are dumb enough to buy An overpriced, hideous, obese muscle car that gets its a$$ handed to it by a far superior, less expensive and better looking mustang. All for what? The camaro name? The chevy name? GM is a s**t company always has been. Ford didn't take the bailout people. You know why? Because they make a better product. Its kinda good for me though. Everyone and there mother has a camaro here in the capital region. Cant wait to roll out my "one of a kind" 2013 GT premium and show these mullets whats up.
2/1/12, 03:42 PM
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Shows how simple minded america is. People are dumb enough to buy An overpriced, hideous, obese muscle car that gets its a$$ handed to it by a far superior, less expensive and better looking mustang. All for what? The camaro name? The chevy name? GM is a s**t company always has been. Ford didn't take the bailout people. You know why? Because they make a better product. Its kinda good for me though. Everyone and there mother has a camaro here in the capital region. Cant wait to roll out my "one of a kind" 2013 GT premium and show these mullets whats up.
2/1/12, 04:14 PM
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Yeah...in addition to what tbi0904 said, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest GM is probably not a sh*t company, since they've been the #1 brand in the world for decades and has been ahead of Ford in sales since the Great Depression. It's ok to be a Ford fan/Mustang owner and respect the competition. I'm just happy the top car in the segment is American and is so good it forced Ford to make the Mustangs we all love so much. Would you guys rather it be a new Celica/Supra from Toyota that's #1?
, besides that I own 4 camaro's, so maybe I am 
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2/1/12, 05:08 PM
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You mean like when the far inferior SN95 & new edge Mustangs were outselling LS1 powered Fbodys? Look, obviously we're all Mustang fans here and the 5.0 is the better performing car of the three but it's a little presumptuous of you to say that the Camaro has been outselling the Mustang because people are idiots. As far as pricing goes, a 5.0 premium (to match a 2ss) with the Brembo package are both pretty much the same price. Don't just look at msrp.
Focusing on the now, why is the Camaro outselling the Mustang? IMO it's HYPE. It's radically unorthodox styling tribute to the late 60s is somehow more appealing to the simple American. Maybe Transformers helped a little, or maybe they're all idiots. People care more about cosmetics than function. It's a simple minded decision. The Mustang is a superior machine. 9,000 people chose an archaic push-rod design with 2 valves per cylinder and no variable valve timing. Get with the times GM. Ford uses 1.2 liters less displacement while matching you in horsepower and besting you in mpg. Aren't we also like 250 pounds lighter? Everyone I've met that owns this new Camaro seem to know nothing about cars. Everyone I know that owns this new Mustang is a "car guy".
This video sums it up... (warning, strong language)
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Yeah...in addition to what tbi0904 said, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest GM is probably not a sh*t company, since they've been the #1 brand in the world for decades and has been ahead of Ford in sales since the Great Depression. It's ok to be a Ford fan/Mustang owner and respect the competition. I'm just happy the top car in the segment is American and is so good it forced Ford to make the Mustangs we all love so much. Would you guys rather it be a new Celica/Supra from Toyota that's #1?
2/1/12, 07:24 PM
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I can't comment on the late 90s early 2000 muscle car era. I just wasn't a fan of either car. Not really sure what was going on there.
Focusing on the now, why is the Camaro outselling the Mustang? IMO it's HYPE. It's radically unorthodox styling tribute to the late 60s is somehow more appealing to the simple American. Maybe Transformers helped a little, or maybe they're all idiots. People care more about cosmetics than function. It's a simple minded decision. The Mustang is a superior machine. 9,000 people chose an archaic push-rod design with 2 valves per cylinder and no variable valve timing. Get with the times GM. Ford uses 1.2 liters less displacement while matching you in horsepower and besting you in mpg. Aren't we also like 250 pounds lighter? Everyone I've met that owns this new Camaro seem to know nothing about cars. Everyone I know that owns this new Mustang is a "car guy".
Focusing on the now, why is the Camaro outselling the Mustang? IMO it's HYPE. It's radically unorthodox styling tribute to the late 60s is somehow more appealing to the simple American. Maybe Transformers helped a little, or maybe they're all idiots. People care more about cosmetics than function. It's a simple minded decision. The Mustang is a superior machine. 9,000 people chose an archaic push-rod design with 2 valves per cylinder and no variable valve timing. Get with the times GM. Ford uses 1.2 liters less displacement while matching you in horsepower and besting you in mpg. Aren't we also like 250 pounds lighter? Everyone I've met that owns this new Camaro seem to know nothing about cars. Everyone I know that owns this new Mustang is a "car guy".
I really think the movie Transformers has boosted the sales more than anything. Every car show I go to has some middle aged fruitcake with a 5th Gen and bumble bee crap. They even have night rider lights on that fake scoop thing. That right there would stop me from buying a 5th gen
.But lets look at the archaic push-rod crap motors;
505HP LS7 7.0L dry sump engine in the Z06 that gets just as good as gas mileage as the 5.0L if not better.
The LSx type motors are flat out awesome engines. From the 4.8 to the 7.0, the power that can be had is phenominal. As far as non VVT, were are you getting your information?? I have a 2009 6.2L L92 with VVT that is about to go in one of my 1992 Camaro's. Should wake that car up nicely even if I left it with the 403 stock hp.
Bottom line, if we didnt have all of these car manufacturers, we would not benefit from the competition between them all. Personally, I think the new Camaro Sucks A$$. Challenger is alot nicer, but the reason I am buying a 2013 Mustang is for the fact that it excites me again. I bought a 2003 Terminator new and it was awesome too, but it took a big blower to make it worth anything. Ford right now has an awesome combo, but I wouldnt dare say GM's powertrains are crap. To me, GM still holds the trophy for 1st place on powertrains(engines and transmissions)
2/1/12, 07:34 PM
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In my opinion, the 300hp 4.6 L all-aluminum DOHC engine of the '96-'98 Cobras, the 320hp of the '99 (after the recall) and '01 Cobras, the 305(rated) hp of the '03-'04 Mach 1s, and the 390 (rated) hp of the '03-'04 Cobras were solid engines.
2/1/12, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992chpb4c
You are saying get with the now. Yea, your right, the Coyote is a hell of a motor, but good god man, it took Ford forever to come up with an engine worth a crap. Sorry but the 4.6 didnt count. 1994-2003 was disgusting for Ford. I was a die-hard Fox body nut and have owned probably 20+ of them but when 1994 came around I jumped ship. How pathetic Ford went from the Fox body to the POS SN95 or whatever it was called.
I really think the movie Transformers has boosted the sales more than anything. Every car show I go to has some middle aged fruitcake with a 5th Gen and bumble bee crap. They even have night rider lights on that fake scoop thing. That right there would stop me from buying a 5th gen
.But lets look at the archaic push-rod crap motors;
505HP LS7 7.0L dry sump engine in the Z06 that gets just as good as gas mileage as the 5.0L if not better.
The LSx type motors are flat out awesome engines. From the 4.8 to the 7.0, the power that can be had is phenominal. As far as non VVT, were are you getting your information?? I have a 2009 6.2L L92 with VVT that is about to go in one of my 1992 Camaro's. Should wake that car up nicely even if I left it with the 403 stock hp.
Bottom line, if we didnt have all of these car manufacturers, we would not benefit from the competition between them all. Personally, I think the new Camaro Sucks A$$. Challenger is alot nicer, but the reason I am buying a 2013 Mustang is for the fact that it excites me again. I bought a 2003 Terminator new and it was awesome too, but it took a big blower to make it worth anything. Ford right now has an awesome combo, but I wouldnt dare say GM's powertrains are crap. To me, GM still holds the trophy for 1st place on powertrains(engines and transmissions)
But holy s**t, the 6.2 does have vvt! My bad. No offense man but that makes it that much more pathetic to me. You mean to tell me that a 6.2 V8 with VVT in stock form is putting down 350 whp while a 5.0 V8 with VVT is dropping 370 to its wheels!? Unbelievable! Regardless, a V8 is still a V8 in terms of big power. Your 92 Camaro is gonna haul a$$. Im just an efficiency kinda guy. Getting alot from a little. I only see GM doing that with the 4 bangers and V6s.
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You are saying get with the now. Yea, your right, the Coyote is a hell of a motor, but good god man, it took Ford forever to come up with an engine worth a crap. Sorry but the 4.6 didnt count. 1994-2003 was disgusting for Ford. I was a die-hard Fox body nut and have owned probably 20+ of them but when 1994 came around I jumped ship. How pathetic Ford went from the Fox body to the POS SN95 or whatever it was called.
I really think the movie Transformers has boosted the sales more than anything. Every car show I go to has some middle aged fruitcake with a 5th Gen and bumble bee crap. They even have night rider lights on that fake scoop thing. That right there would stop me from buying a 5th gen.
But lets look at the archaic push-rod crap motors;
505HP LS7 7.0L dry sump engine in the Z06 that gets just as good as gas mileage as the 5.0L if not better.
The LSx type motors are flat out awesome engines. From the 4.8 to the 7.0, the power that can be had is phenominal. As far as non VVT, were are you getting your information?? I have a 2009 6.2L L92 with VVT that is about to go in one of my 1992 Camaro's. Should wake that car up nicely even if I left it with the 403 stock hp.
Bottom line, if we didnt have all of these car manufacturers, we would not benefit from the competition between them all. Personally, I think the new Camaro Sucks A$$. Challenger is alot nicer, but the reason I am buying a 2013 Mustang is for the fact that it excites me again. I bought a 2003 Terminator new and it was awesome too, but it took a big blower to make it worth anything. Ford right now has an awesome combo, but I wouldnt dare say GM's powertrains are crap. To me, GM still holds the trophy for 1st place on powertrains(engines and transmissions)
I really think the movie Transformers has boosted the sales more than anything. Every car show I go to has some middle aged fruitcake with a 5th Gen and bumble bee crap. They even have night rider lights on that fake scoop thing. That right there would stop me from buying a 5th gen
.But lets look at the archaic push-rod crap motors;
505HP LS7 7.0L dry sump engine in the Z06 that gets just as good as gas mileage as the 5.0L if not better.
The LSx type motors are flat out awesome engines. From the 4.8 to the 7.0, the power that can be had is phenominal. As far as non VVT, were are you getting your information?? I have a 2009 6.2L L92 with VVT that is about to go in one of my 1992 Camaro's. Should wake that car up nicely even if I left it with the 403 stock hp.
Bottom line, if we didnt have all of these car manufacturers, we would not benefit from the competition between them all. Personally, I think the new Camaro Sucks A$$. Challenger is alot nicer, but the reason I am buying a 2013 Mustang is for the fact that it excites me again. I bought a 2003 Terminator new and it was awesome too, but it took a big blower to make it worth anything. Ford right now has an awesome combo, but I wouldnt dare say GM's powertrains are crap. To me, GM still holds the trophy for 1st place on powertrains(engines and transmissions)
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I can't comment on the late 90s early 2000 muscle car era. I just wasn't a fan of either car. Not really sure what was going on there.
Focusing on the now, why is the Camaro outselling the Mustang? IMO it's HYPE. It's radically unorthodox styling tribute to the late 60s is somehow more appealing to the simple American. Maybe Transformers helped a little, or maybe they're all idiots. People care more about cosmetics than function. It's a simple minded decision. The Mustang is a superior machine. 9,000 people chose an archaic push-rod design with 2 valves per cylinder and no variable valve timing. Get with the times GM. Ford uses 1.2 liters less displacement while matching you in horsepower and besting you in mpg. Aren't we also like 250 pounds lighter? Everyone I've met that owns this new Camaro seem to know nothing about cars. Everyone I know that owns this new Mustang is a "car guy".
This video sums it up... (warning, strong language)
2011 Mustang GT vs Camaro SS - YouTube
Focusing on the now, why is the Camaro outselling the Mustang? IMO it's HYPE. It's radically unorthodox styling tribute to the late 60s is somehow more appealing to the simple American. Maybe Transformers helped a little, or maybe they're all idiots. People care more about cosmetics than function. It's a simple minded decision. The Mustang is a superior machine. 9,000 people chose an archaic push-rod design with 2 valves per cylinder and no variable valve timing. Get with the times GM. Ford uses 1.2 liters less displacement while matching you in horsepower and besting you in mpg. Aren't we also like 250 pounds lighter? Everyone I've met that owns this new Camaro seem to know nothing about cars. Everyone I know that owns this new Mustang is a "car guy".
This video sums it up... (warning, strong language)
2011 Mustang GT vs Camaro SS - YouTube
Loved the vid!
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Oh yea, another re-design for 2014/2015. I feel 1994 happening all over again......
2/1/12, 09:21 PM
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That right there is the weirdest. When the Mustangs kind of sucked, they out sold Camaro. Now that Camaro's suck, they outsell mustang. Quick everyone, buy the Mustang before Ford makes them suck again.
Oh yea, another re-design for 2014/2015. I feel 1994 happening all over again......