I need new rear brake pads already...?? - The Mustang Source

DrFrag · 2/29/12, 11:30 PM

Is it normal to have to replace your rear brakes after a little more than a year and only 10,500 miles? or do I just drive like a douche?

I just got my 2nd oil change and they told me my rear pads are only 3mm and need to be replaced. They also want around 200 bucks (including install).

I have a 2011 car with the brembo brake kit, but I think those are only Brembos up front. I know rear pads always go before the fronts, since they're smaller, but only 10k miles is a little rediculous.

Anyways, are there are any aftermarket solutions that will work with the OEM caliper and last longer?

Flagstang · 3/1/12, 12:57 AM

You can get a set of hawk pads and do the install with simple hand tools. I have found that the fronts wear out longer before the rears since the front brakes are doing most of the work.

DrFrag · 3/1/12, 2:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Flagstang

You can get a set of hawk pads and do the install with simple hand tools. I have found that the fronts wear out longer before the rears since the front brakes are doing most of the work.

how are they different from OEM?

sometimes better than OEM = they wear even faster than OEM. this is definitely true with tires.

if that's the case than I'm definitely not interested.

cinque35 · 3/1/12, 2:44 AM

haven't changed my rear pads since 3 mustangs ago..
this one has almost 20k and they're still like new

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kn7671 · 3/1/12, 5:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DrFrag

Is it normal to have to replace your rear brakes after a little more than a year and only 10,500 miles? or do I just drive like a douche?

I just got my 2nd oil change and they told me my rear pads are only 3mm and need to be replaced. They also want around 200 bucks (including install).

STOP EVERYTHING.

If you have a car with only 10,500 miles on it, and the rear brakes are toast, you need to talk to the service manager about your car and get this repair warranted and resolved. There is ZERO reasons for your rears to be worn out before the fronts, something is wrong.

Brakes are 100% warranted through 12,000 miles.

Moustang · 3/1/12, 7:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kn7671

STOP EVERYTHING.

If you have a car with only 10,500 miles on it, and the rear brakes are toast, you need to talk to the service manager about your car and get this repair warranted and resolved. There is ZERO reasons for your rears to be worn out before the fronts, something is wrong.

Brakes are 100% warranted through 12,000 miles.

100% agree.

The rear brakes ALWAYS last longer than the front. Partially because all of the weight shifts to the front under braking, but largely because all passenger cars are made with the brake bias shifted to the front for safety reasons. A car that brakes from the rear more than the front is more likely to spin under braking.

Normally the rear brake pads will last twice as long as the fronts, and you should be able to get 30-60,000 miles out of a set of rear brake pads.

If you've worn through a set of rears in only 10k miles then something in the braking system is broken. Period. The ONLY way you could wear out rear brake pads that fast is if they are never fully disengaging, like your handbrake is improperly adjusted or possibly a problem in the brake lines. Either way, it should be extremely obvious to the mechanics that something is very wrong, and it absolutely should be a warranty repair.

linelock · 3/1/12, 8:12 AM

Traction/stability control can cause the rear pads to wear very fast. If you've been driving in conditions that activate that system a lot it could have prematurely worn your rear pads. I'd deffinetly have it checked out though.

**Boomer** · 3/1/12, 9:15 AM

or you drive like a douche :P

Its funny, on my 05 I was changing out the rotors for slotted/drilled.
Checked the pads... they were only 50% and the car has 80,000 km on it
(75% of my driving is highway)

stupidgenius36 · 3/1/12, 10:35 AM

Have you been doing a lot of brake stands? If not, then I'd tell them there's something wrong with your brakes. If they blame it on you doing brake stands, then ask them why you don't need tires yet? You are still on the original tires...right?

DrFrag · 3/1/12, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by linelock

Traction/stability control can cause the rear pads to wear very fast. If you've been driving in conditions that activate that system a lot it could have prematurely worn your rear pads. I'd deffinetly have it checked out though.

it's happened a few times but it's -edit- NOT something I do all that frequently. i didn't know that the traction control is essentially engaging the brakes to keep the car straight. thats pretty lame.

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Originally Posted by stupidgenius36

Have you been doing a lot of brake stands? If not, then I'd tell them there's something wrong with your brakes. If they blame it on you doing brake stands, then ask them why you don't need tires yet? You are still on the original tires...right?

never done a brake stand. unfortunately i can't use the rear tires as proof, as they are relatively new...got aftermarket rims/tires.

they aren't gonna somehow try and use that against me are they? stupid dealers, i can see it now. "oh the warranty is void on these brakes because you've added larger than OEM wheels"

Flagstang · 3/1/12, 12:04 PM

its the stability system trying to correct the car. It would do this if somethign is broken on the car or you are driving poorly. That system keeps you from rolling over and spinning out.

stupidgenius36 · 3/1/12, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DrFrag

it's happened a few times but it's something I do all that frequently. i didn't know that the traction control is essentially engaging the brakes to keep the car straight. thats pretty lame.

never done a brake stand. unfortunately i can't use the rear tires as proof, as they are relatively new...got aftermarket rims/tires.

they aren't gonna somehow try and use that against me are they? stupid dealers, i can see it now. "oh the warranty is void on these brakes because you've added larger than OEM wheels"

They won't void your warranty on the brakes for having new wheels, but original wheels would've made for an easier argument. Did you buy it off a lot?...Maybe some other people had some fun it in before you bought it.

I just don't see the traction/stability control causing that much wear, but I'd get it all checked out either way.

DrFrag · 3/1/12, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stupidgenius36

They won't void your warranty on the brakes for having new wheels, but original wheels would've made for an easier argument. Did you buy it off a lot?...Maybe some other people had some fun it in before you bought it.

I just don't see the traction/stability control causing that much wear, but I'd get it all checked out either way.

bought it off the lot, took delivery with 20 or so miles on the clock.

wheelman · 3/1/12, 1:07 PM

Yeah, if youve got a bias or line issue to the rear, it could definitely be a safety issue, especially in a RWD in a curve and/or in precipitation and/or under heavy braking. Get it checked out ASAP. Be confident with but nice to the dealer. They are wrong a lot.

DrFrag · 3/1/12, 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman

Yeah, if youve got a bias or line issue to the rear, it could definitely be a safety issue, especially in a RWD in a curve and/or in precipitation and/or under heavy braking. Get it checked out ASAP. Be confident with but nice to the dealer. They are wrong a lot.

Is there anywhere official I can find warranty info for the brakes?

while I definitely believe you guys, I don't know if going in saying "I read on a forum that the brakes are warrantied for 12k miles" is going to fly.

Flagstang · 3/1/12, 1:37 PM

the book in the glove box is a good place to start. Just go to the dealer and ask them.

wheelman · 3/1/12, 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DrFrag

Is there anywhere official I can find warranty info for the brakes?

while I definitely believe you guys, I don't know if going in saying "I read on a forum that the brakes are warrantied for 12k miles" is going to fly.

Lol...try:
Q: When do rear pads usually wear on this model?
Dealer: About 60k
Q: Okay and you say I have plenty of life left on the fronts, right?
Dealer: Yes, sir
Q: And I have no abnormal wear on my tires?
Dealer: Not that I see
Q: Uh huh and I sold my last set to someone, so those either had no abnormal wear or the buyer didnt notice. And if the buyer didnt notice, it couldnt have been too bad. I dont do brake stands and I dont even know how to adjust my brake bias. So, could you please check for some reasoning behind this highly abnormal wear because if my rear brakes aren't disengaging, I could spin out of control and die and I dont think either of us want that to happen. And while youre at it could you check to see if those brakes I paid for were still under warranty?

Jcint · 3/1/12, 10:42 PM

Changed my rears at about 18k. fronts still have lots of life left in them. Don't remember which set i bought for the rears but i do know they weren't expensive and they don't leave alot of brake dust as the stockers did. Probably going to do the fronts at 30k. I have about 28k on the car now.

bob · 3/2/12, 1:13 AM

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Originally Posted by linelock

Traction/stability control can cause the rear pads to wear very fast. If you've been driving in conditions that activate that system a lot it could have prematurely worn your rear pads. I'd deffinetly have it checked out though.

Trudat! my rears wear approximately 2x faster than the front do to... ahem... frequent traction problems.

HizliBullet · 3/2/12, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bob

Trudat! my rears wear approximately 2x faster than the front do to... ahem... frequent traction problems.

Reason why rears eat faster than fronts is because not to jerk/push the passengers forward during braking, my Mazda is same and that's what the service advisor said..think about it if the majority of braking was done in the front, everytime u hit the brakes ud feel a lot more momentum that pushes your body forward