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Supercharger in the winter

Old 11/15/05, 04:57 PM
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Since I want to supercharge my GT, I have been reading everything and anything I can find about superchargers. Through Google, I found a website called GM High Tech Performance which did a nice walk through of installing a centrifugal blower on a 04 GTO. One of the warnings they included in the article was:

Vortech says that a car equipped with one of its superchargers can never be cold-started in air temperatures below 25 degrees. This is because of precise, tight clearances within the superchargers. Garage storage or use of an engine-block heater is needed for temperatures below 25 degrees or else you risk “immediate supercharger failure.”
Since I live in Pennsylvania and it tends to get bitter cold in the winters here, should I stay away from centrifugal blowers? Do screws have the same issue? My car is on daily driver duty for a couple of years and I don't want to do something that I will regret afterwards. Anyone have experience in the cold with a supercharger?
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Had a 96 Cobra with a Kennebell screw supercharger on it and I live in Ohio with an unheated garage and I never had a problem. I have never heard that about a centrifical supercharger. I would think the materials are all close enough to the same that they would have about the same shrinkage factor in cold weather. Anyone else heard of this??
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Old 11/16/05, 07:49 AM
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I'm in the same situation as you, I'm putting an SC on a daily driver. This is hearsay but I remember a post from a guy who had a centri SC grenade on him when he started it on a VERY cold day. I've never heard of an official warning from a centri manufacturer about that but if what you found is true then that definitly backs up the story. I'm planning on a much more bullet proof twin screw for that reason among many others (TORK! ).
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Just a guess....The Vortech pulls oil from your oil pan. Therefore the combination of shrinkage in the oil return lines and viscosity of the oil may severely impair the ability of the system to lubricate itself in extremely cold startups. Not all centrifugal S/C require shared oil with the engine. Some are self -contained, as are most screw type.
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The problem with cold is it takes awhile before the oil heats up and some people said the s/c was loud till heat up.
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I just sold my 90 T-Bird Super Coupe when I bought my 05 GT. Never any issues with cold weather. It had it's own lubrication sump. Fun car. Sometimes I wish that I kept it.
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Originally posted by jimh90sc@November 16, 2005, 12:36 PM
I just sold my 90 T-Bird Super Coupe when I bought my 05 GT. Never any issues with cold weather. It had it's own lubrication sump. Fun car. Sometimes I wish that I kept it.
Hey Jimh90sc,

I kept my 89 Cougar XR7 & the 05 I couldn't bring myself to part with it.
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I am so confused to what I should do now. Would I be able to pull the belt off and go back to stock tune for the cold months?
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I LOVE L.A.

25% is almost unheard of.
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Why dont you just call the S/C manufacturer you are planning to deal with and see what they say???
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Originally posted by Rebel73@November 16, 2005, 5:44 PM
I LOVE L.A.

25% is almost unheard of.
So are cashiers who speak english at the supermarket...
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Originally posted by futuresvt@November 16, 2005, 8:26 PM
So are cashiers who speak english at the supermarket...
????

Man, you've been watching too much t.v.
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Originally posted by pumpkinfish@November 16, 2005, 4:13 PM
I am so confused to what I should do now. Would I be able to pull the belt off and go back to stock tune for the cold months?
Jonn why don't you just leave it alone?
Old 11/23/05, 01:48 PM
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I know that with twin-screw superchargers, the spinning parts do not actually touch each other, so I really doubt it is a problem with the twin screws. I dunno about centrifugals.
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Call a tuner, there are several very reputable on this site that I'm sure would be glad to help.
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