spark plug TSB - The Mustang Source

ETNOATS · 11/2/09, 9:36 AM

Just hit 42k on my 05 and wanted to change the plugs but cant find the TSB. Will the dealer change them as a warranty if a TSB is active? What plugs are you guys going to? Not expecting any gains but dont want to waste any money either.

mdun6 · 11/2/09, 9:41 AM

I got this from another post

Watch episode #26 http://www.flatratetech.com/index.php?categoryid=4

Five Oh Brian · 11/3/09, 2:08 PM

My understanding is that spark plugs are maintenance items and the platinum factory plugs are supposedly good to 100K miles. Warranty does not cover maintenance items, so Ford will not cover them. The TSB is for mechanics use in case they run into trouble removing plugs - it is not a recall.

Mark S. · 11/5/09, 10:19 AM

I'll worry about them when she has 100K miles on her...

Cavero · 11/17/09, 8:15 AM

I'd rather do this now at 45k before the plug really has a chance to seize in there. At 100K, it'll be a real bitch to remove and then I might break a few plugs

*2k7gtcs* · 11/17/09, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cavero

I'd rather do this now at 45k before the plug really has a chance to seize in there. At 100K, it'll be a real bitch to remove and then I might break a few plugs

+1!!

RedDragon777 · 11/18/09, 2:46 AM

I am not changing my plugs till i install the new heads, i know my plugs are going to break even though i only have 32k miles.

Five Oh Brian · 11/18/09, 8:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDragon777

I am not changing my plugs till i install the new heads, i know my plugs are going to break even though i only have 32k miles.

Not necessarily gonna break, but it is certainly possible. I have personally changed my own plugs twice now (12K miles and 20K miles). No problems either time as I followed the Ford TSB to the letter.

ETNOATS · 11/19/09, 5:02 AM

Do you have a copy of said TSB, that is what Ive been looking for.

NJ3 · 11/19/09, 7:39 AM

This is the TSB. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...9xg45OqSFtAfNw

ETNOATS · 11/19/09, 2:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ3

This is the TSB. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...9xg45OqSFtAfNw

Thank you, that will come in handy when I decide which plugs Im getting.

houtex · 11/19/09, 6:45 PM

My former-former boss has his Lincoln Mark X in for 95K miles, and the thing really needs to have the plugs changed, it's boggin' and running badly.

They say it's gonna be 3 days to get the things out. He's stressin' bad bad bad. The 5.4 is also susceptible to this problem, apparently, and they're seized bad... of course, I also think that it is a case of "oh, dammit. Another one of these bastards." and they're draggin' their feet on it...

Anyway, Awesome just had her 45K oil change and I'm seriously indecisive about tackling the things myself so I can put the anti-seize on them... Or should I take them in to a Ford place... or maybe just say screw it and replace the engine at 100K or so...

/that last was silly, I know.
//or was it? Perhaps a built, supercharged, nitrous monster...

Kevindust · 11/21/09, 2:59 AM

After reading all the hype about Mustang 3V plugs on the interweb, I was aprehensive about doing the job myself so I went and talked to the dealer about the cost for them to do it. The service manager gave me the regular speach, quoted their 8 cyl tuneup and guaranteed that would be the price. I mentioned what I had read about the 3V motor and he laughed, said that was only ever an issue on trucks and they had NEVER broken a plug in a Mustang, once again guaranteed that "they knew what they were doing" and it would not be an issue.

I'm not naive, or blindly believing a service manager at a dealer...but man, are people making a bigger deal about this than they need to be?

jasongt06 · 11/21/09, 3:29 AM

Id let them do it if he would put it in writing that there would be no additional charges in the even that some of the plugs break.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevindust

After reading all the hype about Mustang 3V plugs on the interweb, I was aprehensive about doing the job myself so I went and talked to the dealer about the cost for them to do it. The service manager gave me the regular speach, quoted their 8 cyl tuneup and guaranteed that would be the price. I mentioned what I had read about the 3V motor and he laughed, said that was only ever an issue on trucks and they had NEVER broken a plug in a Mustang, once again guaranteed that "they knew what they were doing" and it would not be an issue.

I'm not naive, or blindly believing a service manager at a dealer...but man, are people making a bigger deal about this than they need to be?

Cavero · 11/21/09, 7:42 AM

How much does the dealer charge to replace them anyway?

yugoboss · 11/21/09, 11:26 AM

We have done lot's of them at our shop, never had one break, not to say it won't happen though.

cop on my back · 11/21/09, 6:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs

+1!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark S.

I'll worry about them when she has 100K miles on her...

Let us know how that goes.... My guess, it won't be good.

AFChief · 11/21/09, 7:15 PM

I did mine at about 10K. Peace of mind is a good thing.

Cavero · 11/22/09, 3:03 PM

So how much does the dealer charge to change spark plugs?

houtex · 11/22/09, 3:58 PM

Ex-Boss got his truck back, it was basically $400 a side, but your dealer may vary.

11/2/09, 9:36 AM	#1
ETNOATS Bullitt Member Join Date: February 2, 2004 Posts: 344	spark plug TSB Just hit 42k on my 05 and wanted to change the plugs but cant find the TSB. Will the dealer change them as a warranty if a TSB is active? What plugs are you guys going to? Not expecting any gains but dont want to waste any money either. __________________ Stern ST 1 19x8.5, Falken FK452 275/40/19s, Mac Prochamber with Mac mufflers, Sequential Turn Signals, MAC Straight Shot with C&L inlet tube, DiabloSport Predator with custom tune from Bamachips, BMR adj panhard bar, Midwest Auto Gear plenum cover and mirror inserts, Steeda springs, 10in Le Mans stripes with 1/4 in pins on inside and out, Moss Mustang tail light bezels, SHR honeycomb panel, SHR 1/4 louvers, GT 500 spoiler, hood pins, hood struts. SMR #0317

11/3/09, 2:08 PM	#3
Five Oh Brian Cobra R Member Brian Join Date: November 14, 2007 Location: Pacific NW USA Car: 07 Mustang GT Coupe w/Vortech V2 S'Charger Posts: 1,941	My understanding is that spark plugs are maintenance items and the platinum factory plugs are supposedly good to 100K miles. Warranty does not cover maintenance items, so Ford will not cover them. The TSB is for mechanics use in case they run into trouble removing plugs - it is not a recall. __________________ Current Mustang: Alloy Gray 07 GT Premium Coupe Automatic, spoiler delete, 64E 18" wheels, GT App Pkg, V6 Pony Grill & Lamps, V6 Pony Fender Emblems, etc. Current Mods: Vortech V-2 S-Trim Supercharger, 4.10 gears, 4800 rpm Stall Converter, SLP Catted X-Pipe, & BFG Drag Radials for track days. Best ET: 1/8 mile 7.56 @ 91.5 mph. 1/4 mile 11.85 @ 113.5 mph. Previous Mustangs: 03 Mach 1, 00 "Spring Feature" GT, 89 5.0L LX Sport, 88 LX, and 75 Mach 1.

11/5/09, 10:19 AM	#4
Mark S. Bullitt Member Join Date: July 20, 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Car: 2006 Mustang GT Posts: 419	I'll worry about them when she has 100K miles on her... __________________ *2006 Mustang GT Premium Coupe* - Windveil Blue Metallic- Light Graphite Leather - 5 Speed Auto, IUP, Shaker 500 Current Stable: 2001 Corvette, 2002 Maxima, and 2001 Blazer**

11/17/09, 8:15 AM	#5
Cavero Mach 1 Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Posts: 926	I'd rather do this now at 45k before the plug really has a chance to seize in there. At 100K, it'll be a real bitch to remove and then I might break a few plugs __________________ If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is, it's cheaper to replace it with performance parts. Everyone's gotta be a damn pace car Drivetrain: Granatelli CAI\|K&N Filter\|Tillman Dyno tunes\|Coast Aluminum Driveshaft\|UPR Composite Shift Knob\|\|Steeda Urethane Shifter Bushings Suspension: Steeda: sway bars, Adjustable Panhard rod, Panhard Rod Support, Sport Springs, HD Strut mounts, Adj UCA, X5 ball joints\|\| BMR bumpsteer kit, Tubular LCA's, Relocation brackets\| Tokico D-Specs\| Winter: Kumho 255/50 R17 tires, stock rims, Summer: Nitto NT555 245/45R18 f & 275/40R18, Konig Stampede's Cosmetic: Exterior: whole lotta wax, Interior: whole lotta aluminum. 06 Tungsten Gray GT Coupe, 5spd manual, Interior Upgrade Package, Active Anti-theft

11/18/09, 2:46 AM	#7
RedDragon777 Shelby GT350 Member Ira Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: Mercedes, TX Car: 2006 Mustang GT Posts: 2,195	I am not changing my plugs till i install the new heads, i know my plugs are going to break even though i only have 32k miles. __________________ Black Sunshine AKA Demon Moon 2006 Black Mustang G.T. 460 ICAP, IUP, and many more mods that they will not let me post. Tuned by Chris Rose.

11/2/09, 9:41 AM	#2
mdun6 V6 Member Join Date: September 9, 2009 Location: Ohio Car: 2011 Mustang GT Posts: 57	I got this from another post Watch episode #26 http://www.flatratetech.com/index.php?categoryid=4

11/19/09, 5:02 AM	#9
ETNOATS Bullitt Member Join Date: February 2, 2004 Posts: 344	Do you have a copy of said TSB, that is what Ive been looking for. __________________ Stern ST 1 19x8.5, Falken FK452 275/40/19s, Mac Prochamber with Mac mufflers, Sequential Turn Signals, MAC Straight Shot with C&L inlet tube, DiabloSport Predator with custom tune from Bamachips, BMR adj panhard bar, Midwest Auto Gear plenum cover and mirror inserts, Steeda springs, 10in Le Mans stripes with 1/4 in pins on inside and out, Moss Mustang tail light bezels, SHR honeycomb panel, SHR 1/4 louvers, GT 500 spoiler, hood pins, hood struts. SMR #0317

11/19/09, 7:39 AM	#10
NJ3 Mach 1 Member Ned Join Date: August 9, 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Va. Posts: 757	This is the TSB. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...9xg45OqSFtAfNw __________________ 2006 Redfire Mustang Coupe GT - Deluxe. IUP, Shaker 500, Side Air Bags, Spoiler Delete. C&L W/ XCal2 \| Tillman Tune \| MGW Shifter \| Steeda Ultralite Springs \| Steeda Pro Action Shocks/Struts \| UMI Roto Joint LCA's & Adjustable Panhard Bar \| Steeda UDP's \| Corsa Xtreme AB \| Bassani X-Pipe \| 3.5" Shaftmaster DS. Best 1/8 Mile Time = 8.503 @ 84.3 Last edited by NJ3; 11/19/09 at 7:41 AM.

11/19/09, 6:45 PM	#12
houtex I tweaked the button... ...and got lucky! Join Date: February 2, 2004 Posts: 1,699	My former-former boss has his Lincoln Mark X in for 95K miles, and the thing really needs to have the plugs changed, it's boggin' and running badly. They say it's gonna be 3 days to get the things out. He's stressin' bad bad bad. The 5.4 is also susceptible to this problem, apparently, and they're seized bad... of course, I also think that it is a case of "oh, dammit. Another one of these bastards." and they're draggin' their feet on it... Anyway, Awesome just had her 45K oil change and I'm seriously indecisive about tackling the things myself so I can put the anti-seize on them... Or should I take them in to a Ford place... or maybe just say screw it and replace the engine at 100K or so... /that last was silly, I know. //or was it? Perhaps a built, supercharged, nitrous monster... __________________ *houtex* My dearly missed Muskrat (RIP): http://web.wt.net/~houtex/muskrat.htm *The Awesome,* aka my 2006 Mustang GT Coupe, Performance White, 17" Painted Aluminum Wheels, Spoiler, Dark Charcoal Leather Interior, Power Driver Seat, Interior Upgrade Package with MyColor, Shaker 500... and a 5 Speed Manual, for which many think I'm crazy for getting in Houston. http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...&highlight=wai

11/21/09, 2:59 AM	#13
Kevindust V6 Member Kevin Join Date: June 10, 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada, eh Car: 2005 Mustang GT Posts: 92	After reading all the hype about Mustang 3V plugs on the interweb, I was aprehensive about doing the job myself so I went and talked to the dealer about the cost for them to do it. The service manager gave me the regular speach, quoted their 8 cyl tuneup and guaranteed that would be the price. I mentioned what I had read about the 3V motor and he laughed, said that was only ever an issue on trucks and they had NEVER broken a plug in a Mustang, once again guaranteed that "they knew what they were doing" and it would not be an issue. I'm not naive, or blindly believing a service manager at a dealer...but man, are people making a bigger deal about this than they need to be? __________________ Sold: 1995 Mustang GT (blk on blk) 5.0 w/T5, Powerdyne s/c, JBA headers, Eibach springs, polyurathane sway-bar bushings, 3.73 FMS gear, 17" Autoform wheels, 255/40 fr. 275/40 rr Potenza S-02 PP Sold: 1994 Mustang GT (blk on gry) 5.0 w/T5, Pro-5.0 shifter, stock 17" wheels Current: 2005 Mustang GT (slvr on blk) IUP, Leather, 3.73, C&L Racer, X3, Flowmaster, MGW, GT500 sway-bars, STB & wheels, 275/40/18 Sumi ZIII 1994 Escort GT 4-4-Fun race car, stock engine and suspension, 4 point CSC cage, Kirkey seat, 5 point harness, car was 2007 Class Champion, 2008 runner-up at Capital City Speedway (3/8 mile paved oval) Last edited by Kevindust; 11/21/09 at 3:05 AM.

11/21/09, 7:42 AM	#15
Cavero Mach 1 Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Posts: 926	How much does the dealer charge to replace them anyway? __________________ If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is, it's cheaper to replace it with performance parts. Everyone's gotta be a damn pace car Drivetrain: Granatelli CAI\|K&N Filter\|Tillman Dyno tunes\|Coast Aluminum Driveshaft\|UPR Composite Shift Knob\|\|Steeda Urethane Shifter Bushings Suspension: Steeda: sway bars, Adjustable Panhard rod, Panhard Rod Support, Sport Springs, HD Strut mounts, Adj UCA, X5 ball joints\|\| BMR bumpsteer kit, Tubular LCA's, Relocation brackets\| Tokico D-Specs\| Winter: Kumho 255/50 R17 tires, stock rims, Summer: Nitto NT555 245/45R18 f & 275/40R18, Konig Stampede's Cosmetic: Exterior: whole lotta wax, Interior: whole lotta aluminum. 06 Tungsten Gray GT Coupe, 5spd manual, Interior Upgrade Package, Active Anti-theft

11/21/09, 11:26 AM	#16
yugoboss GT Member Join Date: September 2, 2008 Location: Alberta Car: 2009 Mustang GT, CS Posts: 100	We have done lot's of them at our shop, never had one break, not to say it won't happen though.

11/21/09, 7:15 PM	#18
AFChief Bullitt Member Join Date: August 31, 2005 Car: 07 GT500, 06 GT, 03 GT Posts: 430	I did mine at about 10K. Peace of mind is a good thing. __________________ '07 GT500, Performance White, Vista Blue stripes '06 GT Prem, Tungsten Grey '03 GT , Dark Shadow Gray

11/22/09, 3:03 PM	#19
Cavero Mach 1 Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Posts: 926	So how much does the dealer charge to change spark plugs? __________________ If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is, it's cheaper to replace it with performance parts. Everyone's gotta be a damn pace car Drivetrain: Granatelli CAI\|K&N Filter\|Tillman Dyno tunes\|Coast Aluminum Driveshaft\|UPR Composite Shift Knob\|\|Steeda Urethane Shifter Bushings Suspension: Steeda: sway bars, Adjustable Panhard rod, Panhard Rod Support, Sport Springs, HD Strut mounts, Adj UCA, X5 ball joints\|\| BMR bumpsteer kit, Tubular LCA's, Relocation brackets\| Tokico D-Specs\| Winter: Kumho 255/50 R17 tires, stock rims, Summer: Nitto NT555 245/45R18 f & 275/40R18, Konig Stampede's Cosmetic: Exterior: whole lotta wax, Interior: whole lotta aluminum. 06 Tungsten Gray GT Coupe, 5spd manual, Interior Upgrade Package, Active Anti-theft

11/22/09, 3:58 PM	#20
houtex I tweaked the button... ...and got lucky! Join Date: February 2, 2004 Posts: 1,699	Ex-Boss got his truck back, it was basically $400 a side, but your dealer may vary. __________________ *houtex* My dearly missed Muskrat (RIP): http://web.wt.net/~houtex/muskrat.htm *The Awesome,* aka my 2006 Mustang GT Coupe, Performance White, 17" Painted Aluminum Wheels, Spoiler, Dark Charcoal Leather Interior, Power Driver Seat, Interior Upgrade Package with MyColor, Shaker 500... and a 5 Speed Manual, for which many think I'm crazy for getting in Houston. http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...&highlight=wai

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